Matthew Holder speaks to Neal Stone about the need for unity to resist a more dangerous world being thrust upon us.

Neal Stone is head of policy and governance at McOnie and served for many years as director of policy at the British Safety Council.

By a quirk of technology, my interview with Neal Stone did not start well. A video malfunction meant that Neal could only look at an empty, black screen whereas I was able to see him clearly in the light of locked-down Pendle in East Lancashire.

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